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#1 wisher

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 03:23 PM

I wasn't sure whether to put this in Daily Living or Relationships, so I stuck it here; hope that's okay.

My diagnosis of N is relatively new, and it has been hitting me much harder lately, so having to deal with it is becoming a larger part of my life. The problem I've been facing lately is that people don't take me seriously. When a sleep attack is coming on, I try to just go hide away somewhere, but sometimes other people are around and I have to communicate to them what's going on. I say that I need to sleep, or I need to go take a nap for a few minutes, and they're just like "Oh, yeah, me too. I could totally go for a nap right now!" or "Yeah, I'm so tired, yawwwn." and then they kind of expect that I'm just commenting and don't understand/realize that NO, I need to go sleep like right now.

I've braved it a few times and told co-workers that I have narcolepsy, and they seem like they don't really believe me or something. I think part of it is because it has really only been hitting me hard in the past few months. I also spend a lot of time alone at work, so I am usually able to nap without anyone knowing. That, and also, in the past, I was able to fight back the sleep attacks and stay awake, if barely. People don't see me falling asleep randomly, so they (appear to) think that I'm just making excuses for wanting to be lazy or slack off on work.

Do you guys face this too? How do you get it through to them that this is a real ailment and that you actually have it? I'm feeling quite discouraged. :(

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 01:06 AM

This is something I have to deal with too. I'm still figuring out how to have these conversations.

Sometimes it's helpful to put N in context with other (better known) diseases, like Epilepsy, Diabetes, MS, and arthritis. I'll say it is a neurological disorder with no known cure, and only partially effective treatments. It affects all areas of life and it can be very debilitating. I recently told an acquaintence that it's like going 3 days without sleep (and not in the party sense), all the time. This in spite of the fact that I am fairly healthy, young (in my 30s), and following the suggested guidelines for treatment and lifestyle.

Here's some more sharing, in case it's useful to you:

I was diagnosed with narcolepsy in the summer of 2009. I've had it since at least my early teens, but didn't realize it till a month or so before I went for testing.

Depending on my mood, level of sleepiness, and cognitive functioning, I feel anywhere from bemused to enraged when I think someone isn't taking me seriously. If I'm having a sleep attack or in a total fog, it's extra hard to have perspective. All my resources are taken up by the need to lie down, hide, or just stay upright if the first two options aren't possible.

I've found that it helps to "come out" to people before I get an attack (which you may be doing already). If I'm going somewhere or meeting friends, family, or colleagues, I try to give them a heads up at the beginning of, or before, the outing.

Work environments are tricky. I shared with coworkers when I was working full time at a medium sized company. I let my bosses and human resources know when I was getting tested, then diagnosed, then coping with treatments and lifestyle changes. I had both positive and negative experiences. Many coworkers were kind and open minded. If I were to do it again (I'm no longer working there), I probably would hire a lawyer to help me know my rights and provide me with a sense of legal protection/recourse when HR balked about accomodating me. (I had to go on 7 weeks of short term disability, I needed nap breaks and a place to take them, etc...)

I don't mean you necessarily need to hire a lawyer to cope at work. But the issues you are dealing with are quite real, legally, emotionally, socially, and of course physically. Know your rights. Know that people may or may not be able to comprehend quickly (or ever) what life is like for us. In many respects, narcolepsy is an invisible disorder/disability. In general folks are ignorant about it.

I tend to be very open about having narcolepsy. I encounter a lot of curiousity. Most of the time I'm the only narcoleptic people have knowingly talked to. They are still processing the information (lol This can take a while). I think that in an attempt to relate to me, or understand it for themselves, people can be--or seem to be--dismissive, incredulous, or insensitive. Their reaction is a reflection of how they view themselves, too.

I prefer to call N a neurological disorder, rather than a sleep disorder. I don't just get sleepy. My brain regulates awake, sleep, and dream states--and the transitions between those states--differently than it does in 99% of humans. Appetite, anxiety and stress management are also connected to this part of the brain. There is a strong correlation between REM activity, creativity, and problem solving. I like to think of it as more of a mutation than a defect.

That said, I definitely have a hard time functioning and living on my own in mainstream US society. I hope it gets better as I learn to cope better and leverage the unique way my brain works.

Good luck. You're not alone.

I wasn't sure whether to put this in Daily Living or Relationships, so I stuck it here; hope that's okay.

My diagnosis of N is relatively new, and it has been hitting me much harder lately, so having to deal with it is becoming a larger part of my life. The problem I've been facing lately is that people don't take me seriously. When a sleep attack is coming on, I try to just go hide away somewhere, but sometimes other people are around and I have to communicate to them what's going on. I say that I need to sleep, or I need to go take a nap for a few minutes, and they're just like "Oh, yeah, me too. I could totally go for a nap right now!" or "Yeah, I'm so tired, yawwwn." and then they kind of expect that I'm just commenting and don't understand/realize that NO, I need to go sleep like right now.

I've braved it a few times and told co-workers that I have narcolepsy, and they seem like they don't really believe me or something. I think part of it is because it has really only been hitting me hard in the past few months. I also spend a lot of time alone at work, so I am usually able to nap without anyone knowing. That, and also, in the past, I was able to fight back the sleep attacks and stay awake, if barely. People don't see me falling asleep randomly, so they (appear to) think that I'm just making excuses for wanting to be lazy or slack off on work.

Do you guys face this too? How do you get it through to them that this is a real ailment and that you actually have it? I'm feeling quite discouraged. :(



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Posted 24 April 2011 - 08:49 PM

Thank you so much for your reply. A lot of what you said makes sense and I will try to take a similar approach to the one you do. I have a lot less tolerance when I am sleepy or in a fog, so it's hard sometimes to be patient with people who don't take me seriously. I don't have much time to reply but I wanted to say thank you. It's good to know I'm not alone.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:57 PM

My first thought though was, have you had a sit down with your boss and have you explained all of it to them?

When I was diagnosed and the sleepiness hit me hard like that, it got to the point that the floor looked so comfortable, I would literally get down there and fall asleep. That usually made people realise it's not the same as what they mean when they say they "could lay down for a nap".

Really though, I don't announce I have to nap anymore, I just excuse myself and go lie down, or prop myself up somewhere.

A co-worker once said to me, "What's the big deal, you just get a bit tired?" She had just been in a car accident and wasn't able to lift anything and probably would be in pain for the rest of her life, so I replied with, "Yeah, and I've been lifting all the boxes all the time. Why aren't you doing any of it, you look fine?" She immediately got the picture and apologized.

Really though, give yourself permission to do what you need and explain as needed. And as Rrrapture does, I explain it as suddenly feeling like you haven't slept for a month (slight exaggeration, but the days thing doesn't always get through), or I describe it like getting drugged, you know like when you see the girl in the movie touch her head and go "Whoa!" That helps people. I've also said to a few friends to think about what they feel like when they're woken up in the middle of the dream and the dream is still kind of going, and they feel out of it and want to go back to sleep, then to multiply that feeling by a 100 and throw in a few nights without sleep.... Things you know they can relate to.

I've also been very blunt with people and said, "You know, this isn't a joke. This is something I'm going to have to deal with for the rest of my life, and I'm scared."

But your primary goal need to take care of you and worry about them when and if you have the energy.

Hope that helps! :)
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Posted 17 July 2011 - 06:23 PM

It seems like everyone I tell has the same reply "I'm always tired too" or they say "I never seen you just fall asleep". So I have to explain what N is and then, I usually say American's are so sleeped deprived maybe you do have a sleep disorder you should get checked. Some of my family and friends don't understand either their always telling me I just need to eat better and exercise more. When I explain that I know that would help a little, but there is no cure for N and that it is a neurological disorder they just blow it off.

I lot of friends have stopped asking me to do things but I say no all of the time and my tries to understand, I'm hope one day that will change.



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Posted 19 July 2011 - 10:08 PM

I find most people don't take my condition seriously until they see me fall to the ground, then they suddenly treat me like I'm mentally retarded and have no ability to make any sound judgments about my own well being from then on, so then my next challenge is proving that I can still function okay in society with out someone holding my hand everywhere I go.

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 10:24 AM

I don't have any real noticable symptoms. People that see me all of the time will notice when I'm just sitting spacing out because I'm fighting to stay awake or if I'm out shopping etc.. I will just instanly just get grutching/tired and want to go home (of course they just joke about nap time). I don't have any cataplexy symptoms that I have noticed, once in a while I will notice I am holding my head to the side, or my cheeks fill funny if I touch them, but nothing big.

I'm sorry to hear people treat you like you have no brain