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[blinkyb]

My friends cousin had a really bad case of narcolapsy. the worst.
She went to nepal for a month with her whole family, i don't have all the details yet but i will let you all know once i talk to the girl myself, but she's cured.
He treated her in a spiritual and medical way, sacrificing animals, letting her drink from special water ect. the guy cured cancer too.
I trust my friend completely and i believe her story, the girl had a movie made about her. Every doctor told her there is no cure, thats why she turned to the alternative treatmen.
Anyway, i def think its worth a shot, since this is a disease for life.
I hope to get treated in nepal too in the future.
I'll keep you up to date with this, its def. intresting and i personally believe in spirituality, god ect., those of you who are atheists/non religious may have a hard time "buying" this story but i think you should widen your perspective a little and hear it out before ruling it out completely.

[blinkyb]

Allright i talked with the girl yesterday for over an hour on phone.
Her story scared me like hell!
She supposedly is still genetically narcoleptic, but has no symptoms. She's one of the 3 people in the world like that, "narcoleptic miricales".
She's no longer tired, she said she feels much more connected and mentally whole.
The guy who treated her is called Uperti, and i have his email, he's a really famous alternative treater in nepal, and people come to him from allover the world.
Basically, she gave me two explanations for her "recovery":
1. biological
2. spiritual (this is way too scary to write about here)

by her first explanation, the herbal medication and a psychological placebo effect, plus the change in culture and shock (she saw a chicken being sacrificed ect) did the job.
But all through our conversation she kept going back and giving me more and more "spiritual evidence" and needless to say i spent a good portion of the night up, terrified by the possibility that it is true.
She backed up her theory by telling me things she did while having "automatic behaviour", but i won't go into details as this is very disturbing.

[blinkyb]

I'll tell you guys about her 2nd theory here. This is a little disturbing, so anybody who knows they can't take it stop reading here...

So basically, Uperti told her that she was possesed. Her checked her in a few ways before starting treatment, including astrologically, and palm reading, eye-reading things like that. She wasn't sure about being posessed, but she wan't unsure either.
She told me some disturbing things she had done in her moments of disconnection (automatic behaviour) like filling a crossword puzzle and writing things she didnt even know, and spiritual things too, she wrote "god" and "spirit" in the crossword.
She also said her dad went to a medium, and the medium told him without hearing her story, just by her name that 5 lifetimes ago, she and her lover promised each other to be together forever, and that he will come for her this lifetime "when she becomes a woman". Now she said she got N around the time she got her period (13), so this coincidence is pretty scary.
She tried to lay off the topic since i was pretty freaked out by it.
But she seems to feel "spiritually whole" and much more energetic now.
The fact N is so rare, fits very well with the "possesed" theory...

[rantboy]

I'll tell you guys about her 2nd theory here. This is a little disturbing, so anybody who knows they can't take it stop reading here...

So basically, Uperti told her that she was possesed. Her checked her in a few ways before starting treatment, including astrologically, and palm reading, eye-reading things like that. She wasn't sure about being posessed, but she wan't unsure either.
She told me some disturbing things she had done in her moments of disconnection (automatic behaviour) like filling a crossword puzzle and writing things she didnt even know, and spiritual things too, she wrote "god" and "spirit" in the crossword.
She also said her dad went to a medium, and the medium told him without hearing her story, just by her name that 5 lifetimes ago, she and her lover promised each other to be together forever, and that he will come for her this lifetime "when she becomes a woman". Now she said she got N around the time she got her period (13), so this coincidence is pretty scary.
She tried to lay off the topic since i was pretty freaked out by it.
But she seems to feel "spiritually whole" and much more energetic now.
The fact N is so rare, fits very well with the "possesed" theory...

I love this story and am open to the possibility of it being real. I am not saying that it is real but that it could be true. I am also interested in knowing who this guy is and how to contact him. I am an explorer of the strange. I believe that there are truths out there that come cloked in strange disguses. Contact me so we can talk

Rantboy

[greatbig47]

I'd like to see a conversation without limits about the topic. I think it's okay to open up the deep questions here. I'm fortunate enough to know so many of the great people on this board that I can safely say it's okay to ask the taboo and squeamish questions...As long as they don't offend any of us.

Could spirituality really be part of successful treatment?
Is positive treatment of the symptoms possible without it?

Could we all have a sort of genetic (or other type) of demon within us?

As some of you might know, Sleep Paralysis was called Hag's Syndrome for years because the sensation was like a witch sitting on top of us while turning our blood to cement...making us unable to move when we awake. While we might not all see an actual "dark presence", that doesn't mean one doesn't exist, right?

I have my thoughts and opinions...but I'd like others (this means you, reader) to feel safe sharing. It's a topic that while we may be skiddish to approach, we'd be better off to explore...

That's what I think

[Lovemyhusband]

Can you give us more detail? I personally would like to know it all. I am not closed minded but I am skeptical.

I have often pondered the thought of negative energy and what effect it has on us physically and mentally. I am a hopeless optimist and would like to think that the answer is something more simple than drugging yourself on a daily basis.

Well...do you have permission to give all the details.....I am dying to know.

[dogdreams]

Now she said she got N around the time she got her period (13), so this coincidence is pretty scary.

I'm certainly not a skeptic of the religous experiences she had but I can tell you this N onset due to hormonal change (ie puberty) is not surprising to me. Mine came on 3 months after staring birth control pills in my early 20's and I still can't take artificial hormones. the symptoms also change during pregnancy for me.

Also, the herbal remedies could actually have a profound effect, not placebo at all. I know that a lot of plants make mine worse (like, I can't drink Chai Tea, lol) but I wouldn't be surprised if there were plants that had the opposite effect on your friend. I'd be interested to know what they are and I'm glad she found something that worked for her.

[Ms.Vanna]

Personally, I definitely believe that there is obviously a deeper spiritual cause to the whole Narcolepsy disorder. Prayerfully, it's not totally connected to being demon possessed. You know God works in mysterious ways and the Bible saids that his thoughts and ours are as far from the east to the west. Before I was diagnosed with Narcolepsy I was in the military and highly unbalanced. Spiritually, and family- wised. Now that I am unable to work due to my Narcolepsy I am able to work for God in his ministry doing his work. It's awesome but, at the same time difficult. A lot of people look at me with pity but, I am truly blessed to be able to not be constrained by the world and a endless job that provides no real satisfaction. Now, don't get me wrong of course I would love to be healed, I couldn't imagie what I would do with all that free time, being able to stay awake all day without a nap is mindboggling to even think about. I would get a job, go back to school, ..... But, once again when would I have to do Gods will. It's defiitely a personal thing as is everybodys' walk with God. But, for those of you out there who do have a relationship with GOd, try seeking him for what he would have you to do right now, and why you have Narcolepsy. You will probably be amazed by the answer, I know I was.

I'd like to see a conversation without limits about the topic. I think it's okay to open up the deep questions here. I'm fortunate enough to know so many of the great people on this board that I can safely say it's okay to ask the taboo and squeamish questions...As long as they don't offend any of us.

Could spirituality really be part of successful treatment?
Is positive treatment of the symptoms possible without it?

Could we all have a sort of genetic (or other type) of demon within us?

As some of you might know, Sleep Paralysis was called Hag's Syndrome for years because the sensation was like a witch sitting on top of us while turning our blood to cement...making us unable to move when we awake. While we might not all see an actual "dark presence", that doesn't mean one doesn't exist, right?

I have my thoughts and opinions...but I'd like others (this means you, reader) to feel safe sharing. It's a topic that while we may be skiddish to approach, we'd be better off to explore...

That's what I think

[dogdreams]

Personally, I definitely believe that there is obviously a deeper spiritual cause to the whole Narcolepsy disorder.

I'm strictly scientific when it comes to the causes of my Narcolepsy, but my family is pagan and our Goddess finds it much easier to communicate through me because of my N. I probably won't go into the details right now, but it certainly adds a level of spiritual meaning to having narcolepsy for us and it brings our family closer together.

[Marcianna]

I'd like to see a conversation without limits about the topic. I think it's okay to open up the deep questions here. I'm fortunate enough to know so many of the great people on this board that I can safely say it's okay to ask the taboo and squeamish questions...As long as they don't offend any of us.

Could spirituality really be part of successful treatment?
Is positive treatment of the symptoms possible without it?

Could we all have a sort of genetic (or other type) of demon within us?

As some of you might know, Sleep Paralysis was called Hag's Syndrome for years because the sensation was like a witch sitting on top of us while turning our blood to cement...making us unable to move when we awake. While we might not all see an actual "dark presence", that doesn't mean one doesn't exist, right?

I have my thoughts and opinions...but I'd like others (this means you, reader) to feel safe sharing. It's a topic that while we may be skiddish to approach, we'd be better off to explore...

That's what I think

I think there is way more to Hag syndrome Than just sleep paralysis. I heard where this one girl had it chronically, which of course I thought yeah right, SP. duh. But then one night her friend was staying over and after she had woken up from her Hag experience, her friend had the same thing happen to her like half an hour later. So um... WEIRD! Eventually this girl ended up having a spiritual procdure done which got rid of it for good.

So Hag? SP? Who really knows. But The spiritual thing did work so that has got to say something.

[Damian]

I think there is way more to Hag syndrome Than just sleep paralysis. I heard where this one girl had it chronically, which of course I thought yeah right, SP. duh. But then one night her friend was staying over and after she had woken up from her Hag experience, her friend had the same thing happen to her like half an hour later. So um... WEIRD! Eventually this girl ended up having a spiritual procdure done which got rid of it for good.

So Hag? SP? Who really knows. But The spiritual thing did work so that has got to say something.

I'm not sure about this spiritual stuff, as for being possessed, if we are i'm screwed THE OMEN.
If It did work then who's to say that It will last?
It's like hypnotism for smoking etc actually can wear of within six months.

[Lovemyhusband]

I'm not sure about this spiritual stuff, as for being possessed, if we are I'm screwed THE OMEN.
If It did work then who's to say that It will last?
It's like hypnotism for smoking etc actually can wear of within six months.

I'm sure will power and positive outlook have a lot to do with it as well.


The Omen scared the Sh!t out of me for a very long time. To think Andre was possessed might be enough to make me an insomniac LOL.

[Damian]

I'm sure will power and positive outlook have a lot to do with it as well.


The Omen scared the Sh!t out of me for a very long time. To think Andre was possessed might be enough to make me an insomniac LOL.

I mean Im glad for the person who is ment to be cured,
I can't see it though.
narco

[Lovemyhusband]

I mean Im glad for the person who is ment to be cured,
I can't see it though.
narco

So which do you think is more likely to play out in life:

No cure but plenty of drugs to temporarily help or

We finally have enough research to find a cure or

It's something religious you have to endure to be cured or

None of the above.

I would like to see what other people think could happen. I personally have not come to a conclusion. I can lean toward one today and another tomorrow based on something I read or some new thing Andre has come across in relation to symptoms. As an outsider who can only get a small glimpse into the N world I guess I will never have a concrete answer until all of you have one.

What do you think?

[Jin-Ah]

I have a story of my own.

I was going on my 9th medication when my mother, desperate to help me, suggested I go to a special doctor she knew. This doctor also did accupuncture, and made herbal medicines (han-yack is what it's called in Korean), making a different recipe for every patient. I went in for an evaluation, and he made me my own unique herbal medicine I took with every meal. I had to quit smoking, eating pork, and no eating white flour. I quickly noticed that if I did not, the medicine did not work. Over a period of 3 months, I saw a change in my body. I was no longer having vivid dreams, no more excessive daytime sleepiness, even my hair became healthier and fuller because none of it would fall out in the shower (something I used to notice before)! Needless to say, my hair stylist was very impressed. I wasn't depressed anymore either!

After my 4th month taking the herbal medicine, it suddenly all came back. the depression, the excessive daytime sleepiness, the vivid dreams.

However, it was the best three months I ever had. For the first time in years, I was healthy. I wouldn't change anything about them. So give alternative treatment a chance, you might just get the best 3 months (or even years!) of your life.

[Damian]

So which do you think is more likely to play out in life:

No cure but plenty of drugs to temporarily help or

We finally have enough research to find a cure or

It's something religious you have to endure to be cured or

None of the above.

I would like to see what other people think could happen. I personally have not come to a conclusion. I can lean toward one today and another tomorrow based on something I read or some new thing Andre has come across in relation to symptoms. As an outsider who can only get a small glimpse into the N world I guess I will never have a concrete answer until all of you have one.

What do you think?

In life:

I think that if the right people or the professonals aren't really given the amount of resources that they would like, which in term would slow down cures through the research.

Drugs is a temp solution when you can find the right combination, only problem is your body will build a tolerance all the time after x amount of months on meds.

As for trying different types of herbal meds etc its all in a bit of a joke in my eyes if I had 3 months of my life back now then my symptoms come back again it would be worse than staying on themeds getting use to doing things again and then losing them again your just torturing yourself.

religion it ain't happening unless a new religion is brought out NARCO..LOL

So only in my opinion I think that there is resonable doubt for all of the above.

[Marcianna]

Maybe seeking spiritual health of some sort or another is part of a routine we are not aware of. Like brushing our teeth prevents cavities, but if you dont do it regularly it wont work.

[Henry G]

There is always several aspects to a story.

And I believe "placebo" can be a powerful thing but only temporary.
People that have been cured miraculously have eventually slipped down back to the disease. And then where suggested that only happened because they didn't have enough Faith.

So "miracle" cures can work both ways constructively and/or destructively.

I vowed never to allow anything touch my body again, in terms of spiritual treatments.

I can't allow my body to become a host to some alien energy. Too much of a risk.

I even regret trying Acupuncture which short-fused my channels.

Of course there is something pretty sinister or fantastic about Narcolepsy, which can be interpreted as spiritual or shamanaistic

Hallucinations could be seen as Divinations.
Nothing stops a Narco person from hone it to behave more like so.

Sleep Paralysis could be seen as Demons stopping us from our Fight and Triumph over Evil, etc

So there is a temptation to go down or up that road.

But I personally believe it is saner and safer to treat it more objectively, specially because now we have been told it is an objective thing. We are not the Narcolepsy, it is our body that got somehow short-circuited.

I do have faith in one thing however.

Narcolepsy could be used to one's advantage.

I can't quite pin it down but my feeling goes as follow:
There is a fighter-airplane that has been purposely made with terrible aerodynamics.
The aerodynamics are so bad, it needs 30 computers to keep it in check and in flight, if one goes off: the plane won't even glide but fall like a stone from the sky.
The advantage of it's anti-aerodymanics that is now can manouvre very fast, very agile, nimble - specially when dog-fighting.

I believe Narcolepsy is a bad thing when there is not enough energy or multiple processors taking care of the whole thing. Because if it were, we could do spetacular things. What exactly those spectacular things are I will leave it to your very fertile imaginations.

It is even possible that Narcolepsy is but a step in evolution where Orexin will be made redundant. These are but wild theories of mine. But then nothing wrong about fantasing and theorizing about suddenly turning into one of the X-men

I loved that film.

[Marcianna]

It is even possible that Narcolepsy is but a step in evolution where Orexin will be made redundant. These are but wild theories of mine. But then nothing wrong about fantasing and theorizing about suddenly turning into one of the X-men

I loved that film.

SWEEEEEEEEEEET!
I Am totally down with the Idea of being one of the X Men! Where do I sign up?